JCJP Update Blog

New Update on Random Practice Question and Weak List:
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-89.html

New Updates on GUI:
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-90.html

Reverse Question Feature

more info:
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-91.html

If you are using twitter.com, now you can tweet your activity log from your statistics page.

Thanks for the link beeant. I was wondering why the forum wasn't there anymore. ^^

I am sorry for removing the forum from the site.
I just think that this bulletin and forum has a similar function on this site. So with this bulletin, I dont think this site needs a forum anymore...

Also, I think that some user may get confused whether he/she should post in the forum or bulletin.

This bulletin may not be perfect, however if you give any suggestions and your needs on how a bulletin should be, your are free to give any suggestions.
for example, embed photo in the bulletin, embed video, attachment, etc.
I want to include this sub-feature on this bulletin feature, however I dont know if it will be necessary, unless some user tell me.

New update on Latest posts and comments on Footer:

http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-94.html

Google Translation in kanji practice question

http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-96.html

Now you can post video.
you can post video and create your own vocabulary list based on the video.

http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-99.html

two new updates:

delete vocabulary in video function
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html

Level Checkbox selection on Random Practice Question
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-101.html

new update:

Vocabulary Reverse Question (Japanese to English)
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-102.html

new update:

Post Bulletin Modification
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-104.html

new update:

Russian Translation
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-105.html

new update:

DutchTranslation
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-106.html

new update:

Level 4 Kanji Lessons and Chapter Tests (36 - 40)
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-107.html

new update:

Group Page:
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-108.html

new update:

Kanji Google Translation to Prefered Language
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-109.html

new update:

Chat feature has been reimplemented
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-110.html

new update:

Group List Page
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-112.html

i know, i am not supposed to answer here BUT the new starting page... i dont like it ^-^. the chaptertestlist has to be up somewhere, well where it was. i think its an crucial part. opening your charts and seeng your chapterresults. atleast you could implement it in those row "comments, weak list, sentence" etc. since its top priotity is learning.....sorry for nagging

Hello ibun,

its totally fine to post here, and that is the purpose actually...

Thank you for your suggestion, I already modify it a bit. Did you mean statistics page?
I tried to put the chapter test progress on the top of the tabs list, but it doesnt seem balanced with the height of the box on the left. So I put the activity tab on the top of the selection, as the activity list will grow.

maybe I will change the chapter test progress on the top of the selection after JCJP has enough chapters to fill in the height.

Thank You,
JCJP Admin

I changed the Chapter Test progress back to the first top selection, the page will automatically slide toggle the chapter lists of the user's level.

new update:

Practice, Quiz, Chapter Tests interface
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/

Sentence Correction Voting
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-118.html

hey ....would be hard to build a practice database based on the sentences.

Like "this ramen tastes like cat feet"
answers
*a
*b
*c
*d

first english only and if there are more sentences for other languages than those? i understand that its risky since not everyone knows how to build correct sentences.

and again for the normal practice. may it be possible to implement the questions in both languages. you have the drop downmenue

default
reverse

what about "both"

question one:

umbrella

*傘
*クマ
*魚
*体

question two:

誕生日

*birthday
*birthmark
*holiday
*newyear

question 3 japanese, 4 english, 5 japanese, 6 japanese, 7 english ,8 english

and then so on, just random.

I like the random option.
About making practice based on the sentences, I think it's very hard to do it well. If you put a correct answer and another three random ones, it will be very very easy to tell wich is the correct one. The incorrect answers should be similar or there will be no challenge at all.

所で、we need to vote also for the sentences that have no corrections.
And, can the author vote for him/herself?
I don't know if it's possible now, but I think it should be forbidden. And I miss the option to delete my own failures ^_^!

just write one correct and take 3 sentences translated from beginners. they will all seem identical BUT only one is correct. that what i thought too. never the less it should be hard enough at first.

or maybe

you'll have it in japanese with kanji etc and the answers are simplified with hiragana and katakana. would be easy to build some "wrongs" and let that "sentence practise" just be for level 3 and above so you can expect all learnes to know how to read in japanese. so it would be no strain for beginners. its just about collecting ideas.

Ibunさん, I think taking beginner's sentences will be harder than building the wrong ones manually. You need many (three at least) wrong "beginner's" sentences to do that, so at the end you'll make them on purpose.



Beeant閣下, there is a little bug in the new Random Practice Question Page.
Well, I don't know if the bug is new or related to the last changes you've made.

If you start typing in the answer box, but then point & click an option with the mouse, the text in the box (possibly incomplete or mistyped) seems to be taken as the answer, and not the option selected with the mouse.
Due to that, you can select a valid answer but you get a failure.

And about the last changes, I think that there are only 7 vocabulary entries with double kanji form (separated with "/"), so it's nearly impossible try them at random.

じゃ

Hello ibun and spanz,

thank you for commenting and discussing some possible modifications and features.

I'm sorry for my late reply,

first I like the all random idea, I will implement it ASAP.
for the sentence practice question, it is possible to be implemented, like instead of giving 4 options of 4 difference sentence, we can put 4 options of similar options but the word order is randomized, (force the user to read/practice reading). but, the problem is that, there are some sentences with errors.

spanz:
the author cant vote for him/her self.
for the original sentence voting.
it is good to have votes for original sentence, to see if the sentence is good quality, but I dont really think that it is necessary. if it is really needed in the future, I will implement it.

Actually its not a bug that is caused by the latest modification. It is javascript problem. its not only if you click the option, if you press tab, enter, click somewhere else, or any change that makes the text pointer goes out from the inputbox, the javascript will automatically load the checking script and go to the next question.
I will fix this problem.

thanks for counting the number of vocabularies with "/", I thought there were many of them, haha.
You can try it when you find them, try level 1 vocabulary.

Thanks =D

can I suggest something here? Is it possible to have our wrong answer displayed at the side after making the mistake? Maybe below the correct answer that is shown on the left?

Sometimes people make unintentional mistake that they didn't even realized and they were sure that they were right but could not check what did they chose before. It would be helpful for reflection purposes.

new update:

Search Sentence in Group Page
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-120.html

Two small bugs in the new search sentence function.

Possible bug (or wrong formed sentence):
Search for "1" (without "").

Search result:
back to sentence list

Japanese:
1書物
make correction
by bahasa_jepang via Bahasa Indonesia
English:

1'>(sentence not available)
1' onclick='openAddnewsent("6", "alternate")'>1'>add English sentence translation

This "sentence" has not translation, but that doesn't cause problems in other phrases.
It seems that 1書物 is a problematic "sentence".

Actual bug:
If you search for "ñ" (w/o "") in the English group, you get a bunch of illogical answers. Some of them include "via español", but some don't.
There should be zero answers, so clearly something's wrong.

Apart from these oddities, the searching function works very well. It search in both fields (japanese and translated). That's good. And useful!

Thank you for finding the bug spanz =D I owe you a lot!

I have fixed the 1書物 problem.

but I couldnt identify what is wrong with "ñ" problem...

for "via español" problem, I think that is normal, the Japanese sentence can be corrected from all group pages. So, this via message is to tell where is the correction comes from.

Thank You,
I will try to find the "ñ" problem, it seems like MySQL bug... but maybe my codes are wrong.

I have been feeling sad lately...
I have noticed that some websites (I dont want to mention) copy some features in JCJP.
They are working as a company and I am working alone...
As long as I released a new feature,
1-2 weeks later, I can see the same feature on their page.. =(

いいえ、こちらこそ！
The "via español" is not a problem. I just thought that the "ñ" in "via español" could explain the results, but it's not the case.

For your information, there are some characters that show similar behaviour.
Searching for one of these (or even sometimes strings of two or more of them) produces variable and absurd results. Surely these are not the only ones...
ñ,ç,_

Searching for
?,/
produces a lot of warnings without any visible sentence. Some of the results for "?" contain indeed the "?", but even in these cases, the sentence texts are not shown. Only the corrections are shown.

And if you want a really strange result, try searching for "."
Given the results, I thought that the string ".." should give the same answers. I was wrong...

I've checked if "ñ" in UTF8 / Unicode Little Endian / Unicode Big Endian can match partially some of the kana/kanji strings in the list, but doesn't seem
to be true, so I'm lost.

Anyway, none of these are big problems. You can leave the system as it is for the moment.

I didn't see your sad comment. Sorry.
Are you sure they are copying you? several websites? すごい! You must be in the right way!
Take a break if you feel you've lost motivation. Maybe they will come with another idea you can copy.
Don't give up!

Thank you for your motivating words spanz. =D
I don't want to give up, because I also like developing this site, meeting new people like you, etc.

For the searching bugs, as you said it is not a big problem ( I also think so ) so I will leave it as it is now.

I am planning to modify the whole codes of JCJP to make it more efficient, faster, and easier to maintain such as new feature development, etc.
Because of this, the new feature release might be delayed for a while.

Don't worry too much, boss. We're not in a hurry.

"I am planning to modify the whole codes of JCJP to make it more efficient, faster, and easier to maintain."
Wow, sure you are a 働き者!

I hope you'll change the developing order, and give priority to:
1-Your studies
2-Making JCJP easier to maintain (good idea, but you'll need a lot of willpower)
3-Making JCJP faster
4-Taking advice from fools like me

頑張って下さい!

I have done around 5%-10% on rewriting the whole code.
Please be patient for the new feature updates. =D

10-4

10-4?

Ok　/ affirmative / understood / 分かった。
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-code

ごめんね、　I did not want you to lose your time.

Hello, beeant.

Lately (aprox. from yesterday), I'm suffering multiple locks in the Random Practice with reverse mode Spanish vocabulary setting.
There are some answers that I can't select. Whenever one of these "special" answers is the correct one, I get stuck. In order to advance without a fail, I need to reload the page loosing all the combos.
Your code doesn't crash. Everything still works. The little ball mark follows the mouse, and I can select any other answer (failing the question, of course!).
If I click the correct one, nothing happens.

Is this problem related to your latest work?
(No need to fix it yet. Surely it affects only to reverse Spanish questions) This is only for your information.

Here are two of these "special" answers:

1980年代
1980ねんだい
condición / estado actual
compañero / contrincante
tal que / como / así
los años 80

The last one (the correct one) is the only unselectable option. Every time this question appears, I get stuck.

心から
こころから
palabra que simula el sonido de algo que no suena
psicología
de corazón / con el corazón
hecho / certeza / realidad

Here, the unselectable option is the third one.

The accented vowels and "ñ" don't cause problems in other questions, so I don't know what's happening here.

奇妙な事だよ。

じゃ！

Hello spanz,

Thank you so much for finding lots of bugs and report the problems to me. I will try to get it fixed ASAP, I am working on the next release, hopefully I can get it done by the end of November.
as I told you before, I am rewriting the whole codes from scratch.

Sorry for replying your long message with this short notice.
I will get back to you when everything is stable.

Thank You,
bn

i was just curious, what was ment with "chat and lessons integrated"? i dont wanted to spam the other thread. °~°

Its something like you can chat and doing practice at the same time and in same window.

Hello,

I would like to inform to all JCJP users that the new JCJP is almost done, I am looking for volunteer for testing, looking for current bugs, though I have noticed some bugs and some error message still appear, I am also looking for small/big bugs that I havent notice.

If you would like to participate to be the first who use the new JCJP, please email me or tell me via this thread.

I am sorry but not everybody can try it for now, I may reject some.

Thank You,
JCJP Admin

New blog post New JCJP Preview

http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-121.html

please give some comments =D
Thank You,
JCJP Admin

Nice, but how's the main page and statistics look like? Sono mama de ii to omou... New look is ok though, if it's still as informative as it is now...

Hello arheena,

Thank you for being the first who response to this post.

Actually the information will just gonna be the same, the main modification of the site the codes behind it (which you may not really care about)
I am hoping that with the new organized codes, I can release more new features in a more efficient way (faster).

Also, I did some modification to the layout. Basically, most of the new page layout is just the same. I am trying to make it cleaner design and free from distraction, and more organized. So that you can learn more efficiently.

Please tell me if you have any suggestion on the layout or anything.

Thank You,
JCJP Admin

It's too soon to make useful comments, but I like the idea of showing the sentences in the vocabulary lesson. Too bad that you'll need a good filter (someone has to filter out the incorrect phrases), or the lesson won't be a true lesson.
Some silly questions:
1-What's the new page Recess? Sounds good!
2-And Community? It's a new name for Groups?
3-In the practice preview picture, below the answer box, there are two strange pink boxes:
-subject, theme, task
-6x wrong, added to weak list
These don't seem to have relation with the question above. What's their purpose?

Anoo, beeant-dono, if you want me to find stupid bugs, I would like to try the new version. Please!

Hello spanz,

Long time no talk.
The recess is actually just a category that includes Photo and Video, so its nothing new. ( I am trying to make this site to be like real Class, there are lessons, practice, tests, and also recess/break, haha this may sound silly.)

Community is also the same, its just a category that includes Groups and Bulletin.

For the Practice, I am trying to take a screenshot that shows all the features, so the 2 lines of pinkboxes are showing two different corrections.
- first is the correction for click answer
- second is for type answer (it doesnt show the typed answer on the screenshot because its been automatically reset)

I would be happy if you are willing to try the new version, but I am currently fixing some bugs and completing the kanji lessons (reorganizing the kanji lessons) so its kind of messed up now.

and I am trying to get a new server for the new JCJP (hopefully JCJP would make some money in the future to cover the extra cost) =(
After I got the new server, completed the kanji lessons, and fixed the bugs, I will let you know how to access it.

ps: since this month is a busy month for me, I am not sure if I can fulfill my promise that the new JCJP would be released by the end of November. I am really sorry for this. =(


Thank you,
JCJP Admin

Take your time, man, and don't forget your real classes. We don't need a deadline.
幸運を祈るよ。

More comments:
>> In the practice section, does it mean that we can't see both kanji and kana (like the way it is now)? And what is reverse vocabulary?
>> The main page looks simpler, with no today's ranking and recent users activity, but I think it's fine ^^
>> Where's the chat feature? is it in recess?

Good luck with the new server ^^

i think i have to use it first...but o.ô dunno.. i dont like it that much, but as allways its a personal thing of taste. since i am accessing everybit of information via one page: statistics. it gives a more compact feel than the new layout. like said, first have to use it, since a few screenshots are to less to judge all look&feel compared to usability. since this site works flawlessly and i didnt notice anyone complaining, you can take all the time you need

Hello,

I am sorry for my late reply,
arhena: you can select them both Kanji and kana and it will show both of them :D
Reverse Vocabulary is just like we have now, so English (other language) will be the answer and Japanese will be the question (for vocabulary practice)
Ya, I am trying to make it simple and comfortable for learning, and easy to use. Maybe I will put Today's ranking section on the ranking page.
I have not create a chat feature for the next release :(

ibun: the statistics page will give you the same information. Yes its true, by just looking at the screenshot, its difficult to tell.
Actually I am concentrating on usability on the next release layout design. But if you say so there must something is wrong with it or you should try it first.

Actually there are some complains coming from the feedback form. However most of the feedback are good and makes me happy :D anyway, I accept all feedback good or bad it doesnt really matter.

The next release is now ready for test, though it still hasnt got all the features that the current JCJP has. The problem is that I am having problem looking for a reasonable server/hosting for it :( I definitely let you guys know when its ready. =D

Thank you for your questions,
JCJP Admin

ah youre implementing now mixed questions or did i get you wrong? would be nice to see that ^-^. i didnt meant to rant about it...sorry...it was just my impression, because i dont like candy colours. we will see after implementation....i can still complain after that ^-^ *laughs* give a call if the testing page is up.
thanks for your hard work o(^-^)b

Hello,

Finally, I released the NEW JCJP! =D

I know there will be lots of bugs.
I hope that all of JCJP users will participate to find the bugs and report them to me.

Up until now, I would like to say thank you to spanz, arheena, ibun, tofuqueen, Mike for testing the new JCJP before I released it.

Special thanks to spanz who did a lot of bug finding, suggestions, etc. (spanz did a lot of stuffs!)

I am kind of busy now, so I will just leave this short release message and continue later.

Thanks to you all JCJP users! =D

Thank You,
bn

Oh ya,
I forgot to say, Merry Christmas Everyone!

Merry Christmas to you, too. Do you never rest?

I think Kanji practice is "fine" (you know, plenty of PHP errors everywhere, but it can be used). However, vocabulary is not usable.

Kanji practice answers seem to be ok under Firefox (tested only with level 1).
I don't know if some of the kanji weren't from level 1. I guess not.
At least one kanji lesson doesn't show the correct number of questions.
It says 10 questions, but the lessons has 16.

Well, today's not a good day to work too much, so Merry Xmas to everyone!

Err, Boss, why this box is so ***ing small?

Quote:
"Currently this site only works with the best broswer, Mozilla Firefox"
Ha, ha, ha... oops, no! Ho, ho, ho! I like all the "broswers", but Firefox is the best! =D

Forget about the incorrect number of questions in the lesson's list. If the number in the little blue box is the number of kanji, then it's fine.
Ittekimasu!

Tadaima!
A simple test and a weird result:

If I visit this site with Firefox, I get many PHP errors everywhere, even in the main page. Errors like this:

A PHP Error was encountered
Severity: Notice
Message: Trying to get property of non-object
Filename: controllers/jcjp_controller.php
Line Number: 21

You have blocked for the moment the use of other browsers, so I faked the user agent of Chrome and Opera to appear as Firefox with these results:
Chrome: Same errors as original Firefox.
Opera: No errors shown.

The site works better with Firefox indeed. With Opera or Chrome, the tests and practice suffer several problems, so the only compatible browser right now is Firefox, but, why the php errors don't show under Opera? Or, why Firefox show them? They are really annoying.
As I don't see other users complaining about those errors, I guess it's only a problem on my side. Or maybe not? Deleting cache and cookies doesn't help.
Are there more users with this "problem"?

When i use it with IE it relin me on mozilla's page.

I get something strong with bar progress.
it doesn't show us our progress :
http://www.japaneseclass.jp/user/user_statusbar/96/2876 to 15001 to level 2

I had less than 10% and the pic show us more than 95%.

Same here, so many error on almost every page, tho the main content is still intact enough, all those error boxes is quite annoying.

Ho and Behold...XD

A PHP Error was encountered

Severity: Notice

Message: Trying to get property of non-object

Filename: controllers/jcjp_controller.php

Line Number: 21
A PHP Error was encountered

Severity: Notice

Message: Trying to get property of non-object

Filename: controllers/jcjp_controller.php

Line Number: 28
A PHP Error was encountered

Severity: Notice

Message: Trying to get property of non-object

Filename: controllers/jcjp_controller.php

Line Number: 30

Hello,

I am kind of busy now, fixing bugs, finding bugs, recovering my social life, taking some rest (for spanz), etc.
I will get back and reply soon.
Thank you very much for your cooperation =)

Thank you,
bn

Short notice:
spanz: what is small? broswer is a typo error. about the number of kanji question, which chapter and which page? the error message will show if you go to www.japaneseclass.jp, it has been fixed now only japaneseclass.jp is allowed (no www)
Morviuz: error message fixed
Beltzar: level bar fixed

Beeant, it's good to know you still have a social life.
The number of kanji is right (it was chapter 5), I thought the blue number represents the number of questions in the chapter, but it's the number of kanji in the chap, so all is fine.
About the small thing, I was referring to this comment box. Now is big enough (as it grows with the text). I don't know if you have just fixed it, but I was in Opera, and the box was too small. Now, it grows in Firefox and in Opera, so another 'bug' is gone.
I promise not annoy you so much for a while. For now, I'll only give you a Christmas bug present (ho,ho,ho, I'm evil):
I've challenged myself with other user of level 1, and the default settings for the challenge are for level 5. IMHO, a level 1 challenger should only be able of challenges from level 1.
Ja!

I think that how it supposed to be. The settings level in challenge is according to the level of the "Challenged user".
So, user level 1 can challenge level 5 user with level 5 questions
but user level 5 cannot challenge user level 1 user with level 5 questions.

I just added this auto grow (textarea input) feature, because me myself also got annoyed by the small text area input before haha.

Hi beeant,

Looks good! \(^_^)/

I haven't had time to do much, but have been doing my usual (vocab & reverse vocab only, levels 1-5, showing kanji & kana) and haven't hit any problems or bugs; if I do I will let you know.

Hello TofuQueen,

Thanks :)

Ya seems like there are no more serious problem anymore. (maybe there is some hidden ones)
Now I dont know if I should reset the database to 24 Dec 2009 or not.
Should I?

Thank You,
bn

gratulations sites up ^-^v ...what would change if you reset the database? o.ô? loosing just some exp etc?

Thanks ibun.
Ya just the exp and all the history.. everything will be back to 24 December 2009.
Is that Ok?

For now I think that there is no need to do that.

Yes, there is no real need to restore the database, but you told us you would.
Maybe some users made some errors for testing purposes, or restrained themselves from doing practices because they knew that any progress would be lost.
Maybe now some users should be higher in the rankings or should have better stats.
I dunno, it's not important, but I think it's a bit unfair (provided such affected users exist).
You need much more opinions so, for the moment, leave it as it is and we'll see.
Can you make a poll system?. It could be useful for this and for future questions.

I see you've lifted the ban on webkit browsers (Safari).
Since this also affects users of Chrome, you should state it in the blog. (And HERE, too)

Hm, one suggestion...and quite possibly I'm weird in wanting this...it would be nice if my daily experience was visible on the "Practice" page while I'm practicing.

I have a daily goal that I try to meet throughout the day & it would be handy to have daily experience right there as I'm practicing. Of course I can easily check the "Ranking" page so it's nothing big.

Also wanted to tell you that I *LOVE* the new practice options, esp. being able to have vocabulary questions both regular & reverse, randomly! I feel like I learn the vocab a lot better when I get the questions both ways, & this makes it easy. \(^_^)/

New Blog Post:

Multi-Langual Enabled
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-124.html

spanz: ya it works on Chrome too =), No support for MSIE yet =(
for resetting the database, I think I have committed myself to stay with the current database, since there are so many changes in current database architecture. It is gonna be so difficult to reset back and recover the architecture. So I that make this to be the official release.

TofuQueen: Ya I also think that the practice page should be more dynamic. I will work on it ASAP.
Thanks for giving a good feedback and suggestion!

it doesnt have to be something fancy...a simple bar like in the last interation would be enough OR you create 2 small extra boxes for the top line
Name;Level;base EXP; new=> Rank; exp Today...

Yeah, just something like another box along the top right with "today's exp" would be great.

Another quick suggestion - in "Practice", when the question is in Japanese, it's centered in the box, but when the question is in English, it's at the left side of the box. It would be nice if it could be consistent one way or the other - I have a small preference for centered, but either way would be fine.

ibun: actually that is what i was thinking :)
I have implemented the Today's EXP point on the user header menu.
Now I have to do the level progress bar. I am thinking to put a 990px thin wide bar on the top of the page. what do you think about this?

TofuQueen: The positioning is just to tell you that the centered question in the random practice is a reverse vocabulary question.
Actually there is no specific reason of putting them in different position.
I just cant decide whether I should put the question in the middle or left.

I think if its in the middle, it looks better, but if its on the left, it reduces your eye movements.
What do you think?

Agreed with TofuQueen and ibun.
Beeant, I see you've added a little arrow showing the progress of practice. Can't you also change the total EXP points?

In my stats page, the sentences produce PHP errors.
Ah!, I can't get rid of a challenge notification.
Good work!

I have fixed the sentence problem in user statistics.
Thanks for detecting and telling me about the bug.

I have also added the feature of updating the Total EXP every time you answer a question in practice question ( is this what you meant? )
Thank you for your suggestion =D

for now all the notifications will be there, there is no way to delete it yet. Sorry... :( I will fix that later. ( I havent think of a good way of showing and deleting notification )

Yes, that's what I meant (actualize the total continuously).
By the way, I'm writing this in a PDA (opera mobile). The tests don't work, but the practice is usable (not the text input).
じゃね。

Hi!
In the Groups page, the new (only the new) sentences and corrections look weird. The spaces between words are not normal. It's like a justification (typographic alignment).

If you correct a sentence 2 times, the second one doesn't show the reason (only the first one shows it).
See you!

About the last "bug":
The second correction doesn't show the reason at first, but reloading the page it shows correctly.
Bye!

It has been fixed!
Thank you for the report :)

Found the "typographic alignment" bug. It's only the highlighting box around the vocabulary in the sentence. The color is so dim, that it was invisible with my monitor. I had to change the monitor's temperature settings from hot to cold in order to see it clearly. Sorry!

I think each sentence needs a comment box (besides the correction box) to discuss the grammar.

ごきげんよう。

Quick update on the daily exp. and constant updating of total exp., yay!

As far as the positioning of the Practice questions... It's easier for my eyes if all the questions are in the same place rather than having some centered and some on the left. I have a slight preference for centered questions because it helps keep my eyes off the answers so I can try to really remember/know the answer rather than just recognize it when I see it (if that makes any sense...). Definitely a minor thing, though, so not something to worry about if you're busy with other things. (^_^)

spanz: do you mean the grey highlighted vocabulary of the sentence? isnt it black and and grey background? same like other grey highlighted... you cant see all the grey highlighted or just the one in sentence?

TofuQueen: liudude_123 just told me that he wants it on the left. Maybe I should run a vote for this... I also think that it is a minor thing, so i will fix it later after I can decide haha. Im sorry for this.

Beeant: Yes, those grey rounded boxes. The other grey boxes (as the top ones: Lessons, Practice, etc) are dim, but no so much. I can see them easily.
However the sentences boxes are way too dim for me. They seem to be as white as the background.
Well, I can see them lowering the color temperature setting. It's strange, because it's a new monitor.
Time to work for me. See you!

I used that color in many pages, so if I change that, I might have to change all of them. ><
have you tried to calibrate your monitor? new monitor is sometimes too bright.

I would fix the colors if there is any other user having this problem. but I agree that its not a good combination, white and that bright grey... :( I will fix that when I have time to deal with the color designs.

New Blog Post:
Challenge Ranking
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-125.html

明けましておめでとうございます。

あけましておめでとう！

Hi!
I have a omikuji for you. It reads: very good luck! =D
But, I bring you also a little bug to begin the year:
I did read and replied to the ibun's thread "Happy New Year", but the views count is still zero.
See you, and good luck for the whole year!

Mmmm...
If you change the language, you must log in again, dunno why. If you then log off, and you revert the language back, you are still logged in.
It seems there's a session for every language, and you can log in once for each language at same time.
Is this intended?

Hello,

Thank you for the report, I will fix that ASAP.
However, I am currently not focusing on the language since I am still finding volunteers for the translations.
I will think of the best way to fix that problem while doing other stuffs.
I am sorry for the delay.

About the view, I have not write the code to update the views of threads, photos, videos. I will write that ASAP.

Thank You,
bn

Yo!
There's a little bug in the total EXP counter while you practice.
If you change the question settings, you break your combo chain (I don't like that, but that's another story).
With the new settings, the first question is not totalized. The daily partial is right, but the total lacks one question (7 or 10 points).
The next questions are correctly counted, but the total is always a question behind the real count.

New Blog Post
Photo Practice
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-128.html

Hello,
spanz: about the settings, it is designed to be like that because once you change the settings, you should be starting a new practice set.
for the update exp problem, I think I just fixed that.
Thank you for the report =)

New BlogPost:
Twitter Sentence in Practice
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/

New Blog Post:
Delete Notification
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-130.html

Wow! There's a lot of changes... Good work, Boss!
About the EXP update problem: perfect.
You forgot a way to untag a photo. :(

New Blog Post:
Delete Photo Tag
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-131.html

spanz: checked! =)

A cosmetic bug:
If you are not logged in, all the photo tag delete buttons are visible.
The buttons work, apparently. Luckily, when you reload the page, all tags remains untouched.

ya, thats not good.

I have fixed it! thanks for your report! =D

Hi!
The sentences from Twitter while practicing are very interesting. Seeing the real usage is a good thing, although very hard to understand.
And about the "Google Translate" results, they're even harder to understand. The English translations are bad, but the Spanish ones are indescribable.
Well, it's only a matter of personal effort if you want to learn something from there, so I think it's a good feature.
Two questions about Twitter's sentences:
Is it legal using someone's conversations in other site?
Why many really common words have not Twitter button?

New Blog Post
Facebook Integration
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-132.html

spanz: I am sorry for my late reply, I have been busy. I will reply you ASAP. Thank You =D

what about collecting all tests under one hood: sentence test, chapter test, phototest. old links should still be there.
there are no kanji in the practicetests anymore o.O? and i am sorry for beeing not usefull...kind of feel bad for not finding any real bugs

@ibun:

About your suggestion, I don't understand you.

Do you want to mix practice and tests? You call everything "test", but beeant make distinction between practice and test (dunno why, as the tests are not necessary to reach higher levels).
I think using only EXP for the levels is not very logical. It makes tests (as beeant made them) pretty useless, and makes the user's level completely unrelated to the user's level progress bar. Well, I'm getting off the subject...

Let's see... You want to put all the tests together.
I think photo quizzes are essentially the same as practice (in fact, they've changed its name to "photo practice"), so "phototest" doesn't fall in the category of "test". Only Chapter tests are true "tests".

Well, despite of its name, what's a "sentence test"? I'd like to see it very much!

And, what "old links" are you talking about?

And, finally, what Kanji practice are you missing? Do you mean the level 5 Kanji tests or what?

Sorry, I really don't understand you. I'm dense today...

Don't feel bad, and keep suggesting things. That's very useful for the Boss.

Spz.

call it what you like, since photopractice, word practice or sentences practise, are all a kind of practise. call it a test. the old links are just the allready existing boxes, like those in the chapter tests.
sentence test was just that, what it sounds...what was discussed before. there are allready a lot of sentences and those put together in a practise(test how you want to call it, i am allways mixing those up). those are just suggestions...and everyone has a bad day or weeks or months ^-^

Hm, I have a suggestion that might be more trouble than it's worth, but anyway...

It would help me if some of the English definitions were expanded/clarified. For example, just now I got "present" and I wasn't sure if it meant gift, the act of giving (to present an award), or the current time (not past, not future, present). There are others that don't differentiate between a noun & a verb - does "cry" mean "to cry" (to weep) or "a cry" (a sound)?

Not a big deal as I *can* figure them out, but would be nice if the English definitions were clearer. (^_^)

ibun: I like your idea about putting all practices into one. I am thinking about that too. but there is a problem like the settings of each practices are different. However I will try to integrate that. Thank You =D

TofuQueen: ya its kind of problem, but its difficult for me to put all the extra definitions for each vocabulary... maybe I will add a feature where you can make your own practice like adding a vocabulary (from practice or lesson) where you can modify the vocabulary as you like.

I am sorry for my late reply, I am kind of busy these days =(

Japanese Language interface is available now

Yo!
There's something strange with the upper menu.
If you change the browser's zoom level, sometimes (depending on the zoom level), the most right button (community) change its position from right to left (under the lessons button).
In the English version, the default zoom is OK, but in Spanish, it isn't.
Changing the zoom you can send the button to its natural position, but this is not good.

Besides, my translation of "Bulletin" as "Tablón de Anuncios" seems to be too long, dunno why (there's plenty of space). The button is splitted vertically in two pieces.

The mobile "community" button is wrong placed also in other languages.
In the case of French, is ALWAYS wrong. You can't place it right with any zoom level.

I have fixed it with smaller and cuter login form.

is there any short synonym for bulletin in Spanish?

Yes, that fixed the Community button.
I can translate "Bulletin" as "Boletín", or like in the French version, "Forum", but I don't like it very much. It's not the same. Since there's so much empty space, why a longer string is bad?

Have you removed the Recess menu? Now needs even more space!
Btw, the menu bar on the left is vertically misaligned with the bar on the right.

New Blog Update
Mouse Over Photo Vocabulary List
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-135.html

Hello spanz,

actually there are many of the word length that doesnt fit with the size. not only Bulletin in Spanish, also some other like Take tests etc.

This is a problem, but I want to fix it all at once to be consistent.
So I think I will leave it as it is for now and get back to it ASAP.
Is it ok?

I am sorry.

Ok, Boss. No need to fix it with dirty patches. When you have a good solution, fix it.
What about the Recess?
And, the "Mouse Over Photo Vocabulary List" doesn't work for me. :(

Forget it. The "Mouse Over Photo Vocabulary List" works fine. It was a problem with a cached page version or something like that, and only in Firefox.
After many tries, a simple reload has fixed it... :)

New Blog Update:
Go to Next Photo
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-136.html

A little suggestion.
As you know, some of the photo tags are very small and cannot be used in photo practice because without context, they are very difficult to recognize.
However, they are perfectly valid in context.
Wouldn't it be better to leave the whole picture and highlight the tag box, instead of cutting and leaving only the tag box in practice?
In other words, the same effect as mousing over a tag in the photo page.
This way, all the photo tags will be valid to do photo practice.

Hello,

Thanks for the good suggestion.
At first I thought this idea was great.

but actually the photo is being resized in the photo practice. meaning that if I put the whole photo, then:
1. the tag mark will be even smaller.
2. if its ok even the tag mark is small, then it puts so much work to resize the tag, so many calculations: the location of the tag location, the percentage of the tag mark dimension size.

So I think that this is almost impossible to implement. Also doesnt really benefit small tag mark...

But really, small cropped photo from small tag is kind of a problem.

Thank You,
bn

Maybe the resizing to the final (as in practice) size should be done when the photo is uploaded the first time. If the tagging is not acceptable with the final size, it won't be acceptable for practice. If the tagging is ok, then it'll be ok as well for practice.
About the present photos, they should be resized offline and reuploaded to see if they're valid or not. Uff! Too much work, I guess...

New Blog Update:
Quiz for video is available
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-137.html

Ya I think I will do that later when I have more free time. =(

Video quiz works only from the local video page. From global page (clicking in the number of vocabularies) you get a 404 error.

It has been fixed!

Thanks a lot, I didnt notice the wrong link for so long haha

Thanks,
bn

Hi!
Something's wrong with the photo tagging system.
Look at my tag in the photo beeant672713.jpg
Two bugs:
1- The tag fields Hiragana and Kanji are shown (or entered) in reverse order.
I've tried it two times to be sure, and the fields got reversed each time.

2- I can't delete the reversed tags. They disappear, but if you reload, they reappear.

Hey,

Thsnks a lot for detecting the delete bug, I have fixed it.

But I dont understand about the reveresed tag...

That's easy! Look at the lasts tags.
The Kanji entered is listed in the Hiragana column, and the Hiragana entered is listed in the Kanji column.
I think the fields are correctly entered, because the photo quiz shows them correctly. They are reversed only in the tags list.

In other words, the tag list has the top labels misplaced.

Two little problems with the photo practice:

1- There are some tags repeated in the tag database. They belong to different pictures, but they have the same Kanji, Hiragana and/or English name.
(For example, there are several 目,青,雲...)
Due to that, when you practice, you can get two or more random options that are exactly the same. I don't know if the system distinguishes between the options or all are valid.
Perhaps you should put a tag filter to avoid duplicates when they are entered.
Or even better, put the filter in the quiz's random selection. If the random option is equal to one of the other three, pick another one until all of them are different.

2- The photo loading/resizing time can be pretty high (some photos are relatively huge). If you answer too quickly, the photo can be shown too late, when you are already in another question. That's very confusing.

New Blog Update
New Kanji Lessons Level 5 Update
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-138.html

spanz: I will get back to you ASAP

Thank You,
bn

Hello spanz,

For problem number 1, I think this seems so visible because the current photo vocabulary database only has few vocabularies. I am hoping that there will be more and more tags and photos. So one vocabulary doesn't need to have only one photo.
I think I have updated the multiple choice options codes last 2 weeks. Did it change?

For problem number 2, ya this is one of the server problem... =( That is why I am asking for donations ;(, I know that this is not good for the users, because I am thinking to make this site to be completely free, but I the income from advertisements is not enough at all.
I am currently working on some features which are limited only for donators.

Thank You,
bn

About the multiple photo tags, there's no real problem if different photos share the same tag. The problem arises when you choose the four options to make the quiz.
If you build the quiz randomly, sooner or later (depending on the database size), some (two or more) of the options will be the same. This is true right now (at least 2 days ago). I don't know about your changes 2 weeks ago.
If the check code validates all of the correct answers as good, then the problem is not very important. The quiz will be ugly and the difficulty will be decreased, but nothing more.
If the check code validates only the answer from the given photo as good, then we have a problem, as we can't tell which one is the correct (unless all of them came randomly from the same photo). This would be an important problem.
To avoid all such things, once you choose one photo and one tag randomly, you shouldn't select the other three answers completely at random. You should avoid any coincidences, not only with the correct one, but also among the other three.

The exchanged labels mistake (Hiragana & Kanji) is fixed. Thanks!

Look at this Kanji test (from the new chapter 41):
注文

ちょうもん
ちょうもん
ちゅうぶん
ちゅうもん

The two first answers are the same. Luckily, they're wrong...

In the new kanji lessons, there are some kanji readings in katakana. They seem to be onyomi, but there's also many onyomi readings written in hiragana.
Besides, some of the kanji lack readings. At least, they should have the readings used in the given combinations, ne?

Sorry for give you so much work!

In Kanji chapter 42 tests there's a question about 鳥肉.
In that question, I think that two of the four options are correct:
ちょうにく
and
とりにく
Only the last is accepted as correct. In this case, I forgot to copy & paste, so maybe I'm wrong.

Hello spanz,

Thank you for your kanji tests mistakes report.
I have fix two of them.
for the lessons, I will fix that ASAP, currently I am using third party database to get those readings, and definitions of kanji, there maybe some errors because of that, or the database doesnt have it. So I have add them, manually to the database.

if it is possible, please help me, you can give me a list of kanji which has that problem and the chapter it belongs to.

Thank you,
bn

New Blog Post
EXP system for Kanji and Vocabulary has Changed
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-139.html

I think the new EXP system is too generous. It gives too many points for high levels. It even gives more points than before for level 1!

It would be better to leave the normal comboX7 or comboX10 system if the users practice questions from their own level, and give LESS points if they practice questions from lower levels.

That reminds me of something I said elsewhere. Why let a user going up a level without having passed the exams? If the criterion to level up were examinations (tests), no one would get stuck at a low level. (Eg, no one would like to be in the top ten of EXP being only Level 2)
Of course, this should be combined with a system that rewards coherent level practices and punish the lower level practices.

About the readings, do you want to check all the levels for lack of readings / hiragana in onyomi, or only the new ones?

No, no, the Base kanji EXP for level one is 7 and 5 for vocabulary
it was 10 and 7 before.
Do you still think its too generous? (you need more EXP to pass higher level though)

Ah, sorry! In the example in the blog you said vocabulary is 7+1, so I thought kanji would be 10+level. I've even doing some level 5 kanji practice without noticing I was being rewarded with c(7+5). I can be so distracted...

Now I think it's slightly generous. Not bad. But I did want some punishment! XD

1-What do you mean with "you need more EXP to pass higher level though"?
2-If tests aren't unrelated to the level progress, what's the point of tests?
3-I'll quote myself: About the readings, do you want to check all the levels for lack of readings / hiragana in onyomi, or only the new ones?

I found a level 5 kanji practice mistake (correct answer, wrong result), but a little bit later the page stopped and now that it's working again, I can't remember it!!!!

新しい脳を買っていってきますよ！

1. I will give you the list of the Total EXP you have to earn per level.
15000EXP to reach level 2
30000EXP to reach level 3
30000EXP to reach level 4
40000EXP to reach level 5

as you see on this list, you know that you need more EXP to reach/pass higher level.

2. In the beginning when I created JCJP, I wanted to create a web based online RPG game. So this Chapter test, is just like a quest for you to complete to make your statistics looks better or cooler. In RPG game, usually, you don't need to complete a quest to level up.
Chapter tests, can also be treated as a dungeon, which you need certain level to enter the dungeon. As well as Video Quiz, Photo Quiz (this is a free dungeon with no level requirement). Also, more coming features such as users can make their own lesson ( create their own dungeon )

Do you think I should change the system to take completion of chapter tests into level up requirement?

3. Actually, this is kind of big problem, because I have seen some weird readings (but not wrong, it has too many data that makes it looks so difficult which actually you don't really need all of them) of kanji from the third party database, I guess I would have to fix them manually :( but it is a lot of work, and now is my examination week ><

Yes the server is also one of the biggest problem =(

The memory is installed in the server, I cannot just buy memory and add more memory like my Computer. So to add more memory to the server I have to upgrade to a more expensive hosting package...

ps: it should be just 買えよ! also メモリー or ラム

1-Have you set the level passes higher? They seem the same as before...

2-The dungeon metaphor is a good one. That explains all very well. I thought that the site was simulating a class, but the RPG point of view is ok. There's no real need to change the system.

3-I think the only way to fix the readings is manual work. There are often too many readings for a given Kanji, so you can include only those that appear in the combinations (and add combinations for the kanji that doesn't have one). If I can help somehow, tell me.

Good luck with your exams!

P.S. Hahahahahahahahahahah! I wasn't talking about the server memory! I said that I had discovered a bug, and then I forgot what it was! The server crash only distracted me, the lack of memory was mine, and what I wanted to buy was a new brain for me!

I wanted to say something like "I'm going to go out to buy a new brain".
Ahh... as expected, my Japanese is even worse than my English... :)

Hi!
This is probably the bug I found previously:
Answer Wrong
EXP -5
大衆
たいしょう

The correct reading is たいしゅう. In the lesson is OK, but in the Kanji Test Chapter 46 and in the Random Practice, the valid (incorrect but accepted) answer seems to be たいしょう. Thanks to that, I've got now a triple entry in my weak list. :(

New Blog Update
Leveling Status Bar on Your Statistics Page
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-140.html

お邪魔しまぁぁぁす。
Please, take a look at these little things when you have time.
Besides the lack of readings in Kanji lessons, in Kanji Test Chapter 48 (question 6 of 25):
捕まえる

つきまえる
とらわまえる
つかまえる
とまえる
6/25

The Kanji 捕 doesn't seem to belong to any Kanji lessons (from ch. 1 to 50)
However, it appears in vocabulary ch. 48, in other different combinations and readings.

In Kanji Test Chapter 48 (question 16 of 25):
二世紀

にせいこう
にせいかん
にせいく
にせいき
16/25

The Kanji 紀 belongs in fact to the Kanji ch. 48, but it has no combinations there. Instead, the question uses a combination from Vocabulary ch. 48.

Are you making Kanji test questions from the corresponding Vocabulary lessons?

お先に失礼します。

New Blog Post
Friends Ranking
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-142.html

Hello spanz:

those two have been fixed!
As usual, Thanks a lot for your report.
Ya, of course I always want to make each level of vocabulary and kanji coherent, but not perfectly coherent though.

Thank You,
bn

New Blog Post
Sentence Comment
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-143.html

Thanks, beeant. お疲れ様。
A little question about sentence comments:
Does the author receive a notification?
And the other posters in the same sentence, do they receive it as well?
All of them should be notified　(imho).
失礼しました。

Hello spanz,

Sorry for my late reply.

Ya, they will get notification, but still "a notification without a message" I am still working on it.. =D

New Blog Post:
Ranking Page
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-144.html

New Blog Post:
Vocabulary Translate Group
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-145.html

New Blog Post:
Leveling Progress Bar
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-146.html

Hello, Boss!
A little bug:
The new field to report an incorrect/missing vocabulary entry has a fixed limit of 30 characters. Clearly insufficient. Can't you make it dynamically growable?
じゃね。

hello spanz =D

the 30 characters limit is done on purpose.
its just a place to suggest. not for discussion or anything.
in other words, I just want it to be brief. it will also appear as a tool tip in the report listing (if you mouse over on the reporter name).

maybe I should put it as 'suggestion' instead of 'reason'?

why do you need more than 30 characters, what do you need to insert? I can add some more if you really think that it is insufficient.

New Blog Update:
Group: Sentence Correction System Change
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-148.html

New Blog Update:
Seems like the Facebook Problem has been fixed!
http://jcjp.blog125.fc2.com/blog-entry-149.html

Ah! I see.
Yes, "suggestion" or "alternative" will be way better than "reason".
I was simply trying to explain my translation candidate. If you only put the new candidate, then there's a lot of room.

Another thing:
In order to correct some vocabulary translation, you have to know the level and the chapter it belongs.
We need a search function, and that reminds me an old unsolved "problem": repeated words through different levels.
What if we want to correct a repeated word? Which one are we correcting?
I prepared some time ago (before the vocabulary level reestructuration) a list of repeated words in English and in Spanish (the lists are not the same!)
I'm not sure of the effect of the reestructuration in my old lists. Surely, they are now desynchronized.
What do you think of this? I think it can be a problem.

And a final suggestion:
In the site's badge there's no info about user's level. It won't take too much space, ne?

Bye!

Yo! It's me again.
I've tried the problematic vocabulary report system, and now I think "reason" fits better. I thought that you should put the correction right there, but the real correction takes place in the groups page, so "reason" is ok. Sorry.
As with other fields here and there, I miss the possibility of delete or edit the reports.
Ja!

Sorry! The last one for today:
In the Reported Problematic Vocabularies tab, you can suggest your own translation, but the current one is not shown.

Hello spanz,

I have fixed "the current one not shown" problem.

and I have changed the reporting system.
so the reporter has to fill in 2 field.
1. The translation suggestion: goes to suggestion list
2. Reason: goes to report list