So, I just got on this website a few days ago and I wanted to ask a question to advanced Japanese… - Feed Post by PerfectDark
So, I just got on this website a few days ago and I wanted to ask a question to advanced Japanese learners:
I'm planning on taking online Japanese courses with an official, international website in september for a year (CNED) in order to study in an asiatic political institute when I'm out of highschool.
I find myself with two months of vacation (I'm french...) and was planning on using this time to learn basic Japanese.
I currently know 130 kanjis, and a bit of vocabulary, however I'm by no means able to form common sentences or read a manga...
Should I try to learn all 2000 "basic" kanjis, and use this website to learn vocabulary and the pronouciation of those kanjis?
Within 2 months it should be possible (I'm currently at 30 kanjis a day, 30*60= 1800)
I'd be able to read or listen to Japanese material relatively easily, and grasp grammar very fast come next year.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you for bearing with me, have a nice day!
I'm planning on taking online Japanese courses with an official, international website in september for a year (CNED) in order to study in an asiatic political institute when I'm out of highschool.
I find myself with two months of vacation (I'm french...) and was planning on using this time to learn basic Japanese.
I currently know 130 kanjis, and a bit of vocabulary, however I'm by no means able to form common sentences or read a manga...
Should I try to learn all 2000 "basic" kanjis, and use this website to learn vocabulary and the pronouciation of those kanjis?
Within 2 months it should be possible (I'm currently at 30 kanjis a day, 30*60= 1800)
I'd be able to read or listen to Japanese material relatively easily, and grasp grammar very fast come next year.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you for bearing with me, have a nice day!
posted by PerfectDark
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I am going to use the book: 2000 essential kanji. But it still has to be delivered, in the meantime this website is quite useful, but also too basic. I would also reccomend a dictionary of basic japanese, aka "The yellow bible for Japanese grammar'. I am still looking for a book that learns the vocabulary well, that's a little harder to find.
Those 2 months would be better spent with a good college level textbook that covers vocab, grammar, reading and listening comprehension. Although this site is an entertaining way of memorizing, the multiple choice format is not realistic and you'll waste a lot of time learning vocab that isn't used that often like "mulberry field".
Use this site to supplement your textbook learning...this site is perfect for when you're waiting in a long line or on a bus, where you can login and do drills from your phone/tablet.
The best way to learn is to read as much as you can so you can see which words/kanji are commonly used and see them in real sentences and it will also force you to learn the grammar. A good textbook will gradually introduce new words in reading practice so you won't get discouraged. If you're using manga as a study aid, make sure its manga meant for very young children and that it has furigana on top of the kanji, so you can easily look up the word online. Looking up kanji online without knowing the pronunciation is frustrating. Please choose a "slice of life" manga since learning sci-fi and fighting scene dialogue is a spectacular waste of time.
The online classes are also very important since it will force you to speak in full sentences to your teacher and is the best way to improve listening comprehension.
There are many other places that are better - in my opinion - for learning - especially ones that focus on using the SRS method. Try memrise and renshuu.
I have learned 1000 more kanji and more vocabulary in this japaneseclass.jp site^^- I think it does depend on your definition of "learn". If you just want to learn the Japanese->English meaning and the reading, then this site is fine, if not the best - seriously, I can't believe any learning website wouldn't use SRS if they had a choice nowadays.
Hello, nice to see that there are learners with whom I share the common language of French (though I am not exactly french).
Anyway here is a website that feature 6000 most common japanese words, audio, pictures, sentence examples and audio for them too. Although it is not for kanji learning, I think learning words is better that just memorising kanji alone because the real practical use of kanji is the words they form.
iknow.jp/content/japanese
The website costs money if you want access all of its features, however I use the lists which are free (I think because they are in the public domain).
I inserted the first 3000 words and sentences to anki, with no english.
As mentioned, get a textbook and so grammar vocabulary from there, make sure you use the language everyday while having fun. And if you want to work directly on vocabulary alongside with the textbook or any other website, programm, show, class you use than the 2000 most commonly used word would cover around 70 percent of the spoken language. Oh, and start speaking as fast as you can.
As for learning the 1800 kanji, yes you can do it, however you will need to be able to use the kanji in words or sentences, hence 1800 kanji alone won't suffice.
The are some great comments here so use them.
Good luck
Thank you all for your answers! So much useful information!
I already have the "Kodansha's furigana japanese dictionary" and " a dictionary of basic japanese grammar" (the famed yellow bible), and I have some Minna no Nihongo material at my disposition.
So, basically Japanese learning websites are the side dishes while textbook material and SRS for kanjis are the main course...
Well, I'll put your advices to good use, have a nice day!
