Hi guys, can someone explain that sentence to me? 催促してしもたやないの I'm trying… - Feed Post by RyoBakura

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  RyoBakura

  Ah, right ぼくもみんなで あけましておめでとうございます　:)

  January 1, 2016 at 4:51am
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  mog86uk

  Well, if it's 大阪弁, here's some conversions from 大阪弁/関西弁 to standard Japanese...
  ・やない = じゃない/ではない
  ・や = だ
  ・しもた (仕舞た) = しまった (仕舞った)
  
  Not sure if this exists:
  ・~てしもた = ~て form of a verb + しまう (仕舞う) auxiliary in past tense
  (...But I think ~てもうた is the 大阪弁 version of しまった. I don't know if ~てしもた is a real thing...)
  
  Or I found this word in the dictionary...
  ・しもた屋 = "Store that has been gone out of business, household that lives without carrying on a business."
  
  I still can't really understand that sentence, but maybe some of what I wrote might give you some ideas? ^^;

  January 1, 2016 at 10:30pm
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  mog86uk

  Slight typo correction:
  * (...But I think ~てもうた is the 大阪弁 version of ~てしまった. I don't know if ~てしもた is a real thing...)

  January 1, 2016 at 10:32pm
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  mog86uk

  Oops. I think ~てもうた is 大阪弁 for ~てもらった, not ~てしまった... I have no idea why I was thinking it was the other way around...
  
  Also, it looks like ~てしまったじゃない at the end of a question sentence seems to be commonly used according to google search results:
  "てしまったじゃない"　= 346,000
  "てしまったじゃないの"　= 338,000
  "てしまったじゃないか"　= 344,000
  "てしまったじゃないですか"　= 362,000
  
  No idea how Google comes up with there being less てしまったじゃない than てしまったじゃないですか, since the latter contains the former...
  
  So anyway, it looks like it probably was what I was thinking:
  ・~て + しもた + やない　=　~て + しまった + じゃない
  
  Got there eventually. ^^

  January 1, 2016 at 10:53pm
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  mogmog

  I don't know this song. But mog86uk san is correct. 催促してもうたやないのー＞I use the standard Japanese as 催促してしまったじゃない(の）
  Sounds like over 40's women's saying.
  
  "てしまったじゃない"　 A woman got angry and said to her husband like this.
  "てしまったじゃないの"　This sounds a little softer than 〜しまったじゃない。
  "てしまったじゃないか"　A boss (over middle aged man) is scolding his assistant. Sounds accusing someone severely.
  "てしまったじゃないですか"　An assistant or young people wants to complain to a boss or older people in a little polite way
  if you say it in a soft tone.
  
  〜しちゃったじゃない。is conversational.
  Ex.Husband :　おーい、お風呂のお湯どうした？（張っておいたのに：入れておいた）
  　 Wife:　 え、新しく入れたの？　汚いと思って捨てちゃったじゃない。

  January 1, 2016 at 11:37pm
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  RyoBakura

  Ah, now I get it (, I think XD)
  Thank you for your help (and your time :))
  So the meaning of the sentence would be something like: "I ended up urging you/him, right?"
  

  January 2, 2016 at 12:13am