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I've never figured out what the periods in the pronunciations like わ.ける are for. Can someone… - Feed Post by asiaspyro

I've never figured out what the periods in the pronunciations like わ.ける are for. Can someone please explain?
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  • JACKBOSMA
    The character can have an on and kun reading
  • asiaspyro
    Is the period just a placement for the kanji then? So it'd be わ分ける?
  • JACKBOSMA
    The character before the dot is the kun reading.
  • JACKBOSMA
    分ける=KUN.KANA KANA
  • JACKBOSMA
    別ける=ON.KANA KANA
  • JACKBOSMA
    わ ca be written written 2 ways, the on or kun kanji.
  • JACKBOSMA
    分ける the わ is never placed in front.
  • JACKBOSMA
    The dot lets us know that the kana before it can be written with different Kanji.
  • mog86uk
    @JACKBOSMA: "別ける=ON.KANA KANA"

    べっける, べつける, へっける, へつける, べちける,...
    ↑None of the possibilities for that ON reading seem to work. Of these five words I've listed, none of them are even actual words at all! :P
  • asiaspyro
    I'm still not sure what you mean by different kanji can be put there, but I understand that the period marks where the kanji stops and starts being kana that goes with it. So thanks for that at least! :)
  • JACKBOSMA
    わ・ける【分ける/▽別ける】
  • JACKBOSMA
  • JACKBOSMA
    Kun readings are written in hiragana, on readings are written in katakana.
  • JACKBOSMA
  • JACKBOSMA
    分ける/わける, 別ける/わける

  • JACKBOSMA
    Both pronounced the same, kun reading
  • FelliVox
    I think it would have been easier to just say that the period marks where the reading for the kanji ends.

    Although it's not always used like this (I use it when adding entries to my Anki decks), the reading of 地面 could be shown as じ.めん to make it easy to see that じ is the reading for 地 and めん for 面 when they are together. This helps a lot if the word uses multiple kanji. This way you can single out each kanji's readings and skip out on going through the kanji lessons. Learning in context is the best, in my opinion and experience.

    There are also cases where multiple kanji take special readings and can't be separated like 今日 (きょう), in which case you just have to suck it up and learn it as it is.
  • asiaspyro
    Ah ok! Thank you!
  • JACKBOSMA
    I learned that hiragana reflects the kun readings and katakana reflects the on readings.
  • FelliVox
    Yes, the differentiation exists for a reason, but the question asked was on the note of 'WTF does this period represent?'. No point in explaining kun and on readings when she asked for just that.

    But I'm sure that if she goes back and reads it again she will understand your explanations as well and expand on her knowledge, so no time was wasted.
  • JACKBOSMA
    I know how to read this ( わ.ける) but what is the term called, when words are written this way?
  • FelliVox
    No clue. It may just be one of those things that are considered common knowledge because we understand it intrinsically and don't require an explanation or a name. I know I didn't search for an answer as to what that period meant because I just understood it from a single look, it kinda seemed clear to me so I didn't even question it.
  • EskimoJo
    Marks where the kanji ends and the okurigana begins.
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