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Some time ago, a user here corrected me that a sentence must only have one subject modifier. Well… - Feed Post by zeto

Some time ago, a user here corrected me that a sentence must only have one subject modifier. Well it seems I've encountered this in a grammar book: 周りがうるさくて、彼が行っていることがあまり聞こえなかった。

In the second sentence in this example, can someone confirm to me that you can have more than one 'が' particle in a correct sentence pattern?
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  • WhiskeyMcGhee
    が can also be used to express contradiction, as for the two subject modifiers, well I can only assume that it is a compound sentence because of the te-form.

    'I can only assume...' famous last words, so don't quote me on this.
  • zeto
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not sure if there's any expression of contradiction in the second sentence. Well?
  • mog86uk
    (I've numbered the main chunks of the sentence, to make it easier for me to reference.)

    This is how I'd personally translate the sentence, being careful not to give it extra meaning:

    1. 周りがうるさくて、 = 'Noisy surroundings,'
    2. 彼が行っていることが = '(the thing of) he is doing'
    3. あまり聞こえなかった。 = 'did not hear much.'

    (The chunks are numbered for easier reference)

    '[Because of the] noisy surroundings, [I] did not hear much [of] him doing [stuff].'

    I'm not really too sure I'm using these grammatical terms correctly, but here goes...

    1+2+3 = compound sentence
    1+2 = subject of sentence
    3 = predicate of sentence

    1 = relative/subordinate clause
    周りが = subject of this clause
    うるさくて = predicate of this clause

    2+3 = main clause
    2 = subject of main clause
    3 = predicate of main clause

    Main thing I'm trying to say is:

    Because '彼が行っていること' is a noun phrase...
    彼が = subject
    行っている = predicate
    こと = nominaliser
    ...and then が is attached to the end of the noun phrase, to use it as the clause subject.

    The hidden topic-は is who the main verb of the sentence 聞こえなかった applies to - the person who 'didn't hear (much)'.
    I think all the が are fine in this sentence.

    Sorry for the long post, and I'm definitely not an expert it's likely I'm very wrong! :D

    Here's a link which might be useful:
    http://www.gwu.edu/~eall/vjg/vjghomepage/vjghome.htm (units 37 & 38)

    Unit 39 helped me with that na-adjectiveな+んだ thing we were previously talking about. :)
  • zeto