Anyone know where I can find the best semi-official lists of the kanji used in each of the five… - Feed Post by mog86uk
Anyone know where I can find the best semi-official lists of the kanji used in each of the five JLPT levels? I know that no truly official lists exist, but I was wondering if there might be a specific list which is most popular among the community of people who study for JLPT?
What have people on here who have taken JLPT before used to get an idea of which kanji needs to be learned for your level?
(I'm not thinking about taking JLPT at all, btw. I just want to find the best list to use for something else.)
What have people on here who have taken JLPT before used to get an idea of which kanji needs to be learned for your level?
(I'm not thinking about taking JLPT at all, btw. I just want to find the best list to use for something else.)
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I used this one http://www.jlptstudy.net/N5/index.html on N5. It is pretty good.
http://www.tanos.co.uk/jlpt/ was recommended from several people. Not sure how good it actuall is, but I use it atm.
@Agnos, In the end I ended up using Tanos for what I needed already. Reassuring to hear it is reasonably popular though. ^^
@DragonR33UA, That website was the first one I thought of too, but it doesn't have all 5 levels (only up to N2), so no good for what I wanted. Thanks though.- I'm not so sure about using the JLPT lists on Tanos for the thing I'm doing now. There are some pretty crazy basic kanji missing, which seem hard to believe they don't need to be learned for JLPT.
The cumulative N1 list on that Tanos website has 2,211 kanji. JCJP kanji lessons teach 815 kanji. There are 7 kanji which are taught in JCJP kanji chapters but are not found in any of Tanos' JLPT lists:
分 - e.g. "minutes" and 分かります "understand"... [2nd grade]
無 - e.g. 無い (ない) "not; negative" [4th grade]
的 - e.g. the ~てき "-like" (suffix) [4th grade]
身 - e.g. み "self; body" [3rd grade]
畑 - e.g. はたけ "farm field" [3rd grade]
里 - e.g. "village" and "home town" [2nd grade]
可 - e.g. 可能 (かのう) "possible; potential" [5th grade]
All of them are taught within just the first five grades of Japanese elementary school. It seems very unlikely they are not needed to be learned for JLPT N5~N1... I haven't found any better, more official lists yet though. ^^; - I know on website, this is dictionary, but there is possible to get words for the JLPT. Just type JLPT N5 or N1. You know a lot, what do you think about their JLPT lists? Are they ok?? I am preparing for JLPT N4 and thinking to get as much as possible words.
http://jisho.org - I thought that might actually work. It only shows a few kanji per page, which would make it very bothersome to try to turn it into a full list, but your suggestion gave me the idea to find out what source that Jisho.org dictionary site uses.... And the answer to that is... *drum roll*.... Tanos.co.uk !! (See "Data Sources" on their "About" page) Gah... XD
You can check each of those seven kanji I listed. You'll notice that Jisho.org doesn't list any of them as being JLPT kanji. :| - So far I've found six different versions of JLPT lists, each with a different number of kanji listed for each test level:
1. Official "test content specification" kanji list from 2004, for the old four level JLPT (4級 to 1級).
2. KanjiDatabase.com (4級 to 1級).
3. JLPTStudy.net (N5 to N2).
4. Tanos.co.uk (N5 to N1).
5. Taylor's JLPT kanji lists, on NihongoMaster.com (N5 to N1) —
http://www.nihongomaster.com/lists/view/40/jlpt-n5-study-list
http://www.nihongomaster.com/lists/view/41/jlpt-n4-study-list
http://www.nihongomaster.com/lists/view/42/jlpt-n3-study-list
http://www.nihongomaster.com/lists/view/43/jlpt-n2-study-list
http://www.nihongomaster.com/lists/view/44/jlpt-n1-study-list
6. Tagaini Jisho, Japanese dictionary software (N5 to N1).
You'll be happy to know that which ever one of those you go by, JCJP kanji lessons actually teach every single N5 and N4 kanji on their lists! If we go by Tanos.co.uk/Jisho.org JLPT lists, JCJP nearly teaches all the N3 kanji too (only missing 5 kanji from the list). ^^ - Actually, disregard that last bit where I mentioned about Tanos' list N3 kanji. I was accidentally reading a slightly different statistic at that moment. JCJP lesson questions (from both kanji and vocab lessons combined) contain all but 5 of the kanji in their N3 list — not actually taught specifically within the kanji chapter pages.
JLPTStudy.net: 103 N5 kanji + 181 N4 kanji = a combined total of 284 kanji to learn for N4. JCJP kanji chapters list all 284 of those kanji.
Tanos.co.uk/Jisho.org: 79 N5 kanji and 166 N4 kanji = a combined total of 245 kanji to learn for N4. JCJP kanji chapters list all 245 of those kanji. They list 341 N3 kanji; JCJP lessons questions contain 336 of these, but JCJP kanji chapters only specifically teach 258 of them. But you're good for N4, for kanji at least. ^^ - haha, the world is small. Tanos is everywhere =D
I think so too. JCJP is good enough for N5, N4 and N3. Here is possible to find a lot of Kanji. I don't have much time, and what just to concentrate on N4 Kanji list. Also repeat some N5 Kanji. N3 is not so useful for now.
I have found a new website. What about https://nihongoichiban.com/home/jlpt-n4-study-material/
This website is not in your list, so maybe something new. There are many different lists and they are pretty long. What do you think about this one? - That site only covers N5 to N3. I think it's stayed the same for a few years, so not much chance of finding N2 and N1 lists on there any time soon. Their N5 and N4 lists are the same as on many other sites (just copies of the official 4級 and 3級 sets). However their N3 list seems to be unique with a different number of kanji again, so still nice to add to the collection. ^^
- Nihongo Master is pretty good, but has one minus. There are too many different meanings, I think most of them are rarely or not used (at least officially, it could be like dialect).
難しい, むずかしい, むつかしい this one is pretty strange. I have heard this word quiet often and mostly people will say 難しい, むずかしい. At least in Tokyo. Maybe somewhere they say it different.
or here 日本語, にほんご, にっぽんご, mostly it is nearly always 日本語, にほんご. The rest is pretty good.
I also have found
http://www.memrise.com/course/122925/jlpt-n4-readings/
This is set from the JLPT Bootcamp. This is from american who lives in Japan.
pretty good too. - What do you think about these two websites?
- That memrise course is seems to be just vocabulary words rather than a list of individual kanji, and it would be awkward to compile it into a full list from memrise anyway. JLPT Bootcamp doesn't seem to have any lists of kanji, mostly just lots of articles.
I don't actually need any readings or meanings for what I'm using the list for, simply just the individual characters. I posted this query just in case I was missing an obvious popular list of kanji for JLPT, but I guess there really isn't. So I think I'll just try to do something with the combination of lists I've found so far.
What you mention about むつかしい is interesting though. I notice in a dictionary that there are some other intriguing ways to write that same word: 六ヶ敷い, 六借しい, むづかしい. Don't know how correct any of those are, but interesting still. ^^
As for にっぽんご, although I think にっぽん seems equally as normal as にほん for saying just 日本 on its own, it seems weird to see にっぽんご for saying 日本語. Maybe if you were speaking it more like it was two separate words, "Japan + language" rather than simply just "Japanese" (the language), but maybe it really is pronounced both ways and is up to the whim of the speaker. No idea.
