My friend just let me in on the biggest tip for verbs ever: I was… - Feed Post by Kakka_rotSRL
My friend just let me in on the biggest tip for verbs ever:
I was complaining to him about how annoying it is to memorize if a verb that ends in る is a true 'Ru' verb, or just an imposter poser-ass U verb. He replied with, "Oh dude, that easy, there is a trick for it!"
TURNS OUT
Before the る if the previous sound ends in either an E or I sound, it is an actual RU verb. In contrast, if that sound is either a A, O, or U sound, than, it is a U verb.
Example:
たべる － たべます
いる － います
(the only exception I have found so far is 入る － 入ります）
So thus
ある － あります
おどる － おどります
かぶる － かぶります
I'm sure some of you know this, but, this blew my mind.
I am sure there are other exceptions to the rule, but, I was making vacab spreadsheets at the time, and the rule worked for everything I used it on.
I was complaining to him about how annoying it is to memorize if a verb that ends in る is a true 'Ru' verb, or just an imposter poser-ass U verb. He replied with, "Oh dude, that easy, there is a trick for it!"
TURNS OUT
Before the る if the previous sound ends in either an E or I sound, it is an actual RU verb. In contrast, if that sound is either a A, O, or U sound, than, it is a U verb.
Example:
たべる － たべます
いる － います
(the only exception I have found so far is 入る － 入ります）
So thus
ある － あります
おどる － おどります
かぶる － かぶります
I'm sure some of you know this, but, this blew my mind.
I am sure there are other exceptions to the rule, but, I was making vacab spreadsheets at the time, and the rule worked for everything I used it on.
posted by Kakka_rotSRL
Comments 7
Other exceptions, I just noticed きる(Put on) is a RU verb - 着ます。However, きる(to Cut) is a U verb 切ります。As I said, I am sure there are many exceptions, but for the vast majority, this is awesome.
It's normally only the exceptions that people have trouble identifying. The first thing you learn about ichidan verbs ("RU verbs") is that they end either in -iru or -eru.
Here's one thing which I -think- is a rule and should help with spotting -る ending godan verbs ("U verbs")...
Ichidan verbs with three kana or more will always have two okurigana after the kanji.
Example: 入る (はい.る = three kana) must be a godan verb.
If it was ichidan it would be have two okurigana 入いる (は.いる)
There're like 24 exceptions (but not all them are in active use ofc), you can easily find them, for example, 帰る and しゃべる are Ru-verbs.- Ofc I meant U-verbs, my bad.
- @Sumroach By "Ru-verbs" you mean what Kakka_rot calls "U verbs" right (一段動詞 "ichidan verb")?
This "U" / "RU" terminology can get pretty confusing because everyone uses them differently. :P - @mog86uk Yeah, byt Ru-verbs i meant those ones, kinda used to calling them Ru-, U-verbs :D
- Dictionary codes are useful and are also used by JCJP dictionary:
v1 = "ichidan" 一段 verb ("RU verb")
v5 = "godan" 五段 verb ("U verb")
With godan verbs, the dictionary codes have an extra letter to specify which ending the verb has:
v5u = い.う, か.う, す.う
v5k = あ.く, か.く, さ.く
v5r = はい.る, い.る, まい.る, はし.る, かじ.る, なじ.る, かえ.る
So "v5r" are what Sumroach was referring to by "Ru-verbs" (the godan verbs that end in "る"). The v5r examples I listed above are some of the exceptions that look like ichidan but are actually godan verbs ending in る (v5r verbs that end in -iru/-eru).
The Japanese grammar names for the different types of verbs, "ichidan" and "godan", are much less confusing and can't misinterpreted.
There's also 上一段 "kami ichidan" for ichidan verbs ending in -iru, and 下一段 "shimo ichidan" for ichidan verbs ending in -eru, but these terms aren't very necessary at all to learn.
