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Is a good goal for learning Japanese to be finished learning Kanji after you finish watching One Piece, Naruto
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  • Cervidae
    um what do you mean?
  • Ghosts
    Is it a good goal to hope too be finished with kanji after watching the entire one piece series
  • mog86uk
    How do you learn any kanji through watching One Piece? How do we know how long that is, since neither of those anime have ended, right? And what do you mean by "finish learning kanji"?
    O.o
  • katsuro90
    watching anime is actually a good way to learn it but i knew japanese before i knew english so i just think so because if you have no subtitles you can make out what there saying so just give it a try
  • Ghosts
    Learn all Jouyou kanji before i finish watching a long lasting anime thats what i meant i didn't get any sleep i know they didn't finish i am now just starting the series
  • mog86uk
    It's still a bit difficult to answer, not knowing how many episodes you will watch each week, and not knowing to what extent you want to learn each kanji (only meaning? only ON-readings? only KUN-readings? only learn to write all of them by hand with correct stroke order? all of these things?).

    Say you currently know less than 100 Jouyou kanji at present, and you are aiming to memorise only the meanings for just the 2,136 Jouyou kanji, and you want to know if it would be a good goal to try to achieve within a year?... I'd say that goal would probably be too difficult to achieve.

    However, if instead of watching all the current 720 episodes of One Piece, you were to spend those 288 hours solidly learning kanji (720 eps * 24 mins), then you would stand a much better chance of succeeding. :P

    I've learnt the meanings for all the 2,136 Jouyou kanji, but I can only remember roughly 75% of them. I especially struggle with the 196 additional Jouyou kanji that were added to the list in 2010, because these were not taught in Slime Forest Adventure. So I wouldn't say I've learnt to memorise the meanings of all 2,136 Jouyou kanji yet, even though I've been learning Japanese for a lllooonnngg time. XD
  • mog86uk
    The reason I said a year, as the time to learn it in, is under the assumption that you might watch 2 episodes of One Piece per day.
    (2 episodes per day * 365 days in a year = 730 episodes) ^^
  • Ghosts
    I meant just having it on in the background while studying the kanji
  • Ghosts
    Also did you learn the Kun and On Yomi for each kanji or do you know only the english translation?
  • Cervidae
    if i remember right anime can have incorrect grammar too so if you don't have a solid understanding of jp grammar you might get bad habbits from anime.

    but if you really want, maybe try shorter animes ( like 13 eps ) instead of dedicating to really long animes so soon.
  • Ghosts
    Also i don't know kanji so i try to learn vocab and practice listening to make up for not knowing kanji
  • Ghosts
    Mog86uk how did you learn japanese kanji you seem to know a lot of them what's your method?
  • Ghosts
    *i assumed you know a lot of kanji considering you're #1 on the website*
  • mog86uk
    @Ghosts, I learned the first 80 kanji that are taught in 1st grade by reading their meanings and practicing writing them on paper. I hate writing by hand though, as my handwriting skill sucks even for writing English.

    I then found some kanji learning games on the internet. One of them called "The Kanji Game" I used quite a bit, and was a similar style to JCJP's quizzes. I picked up quite a few kanji through this.

    Eventually, around 4 years ago, I found JCJP and also a kanji learning game called SFA (Slime Forest Adventure). I really enjoyed doing JCJP Practice, but at that time only messed around when using SFA. I didn't realise how good SFA was for learning kanji and only really used it for its cool grammar and kana touchtyping training modes instead. I picked up quite a lot of kanji on JCJP, but I didn't use the lessons much—mainly just used the Practice feature learning through trial and error, slowly memorising from my mistakes.

    Soon after finding JCJP, I found out properly about the importance of learning kanji radicals. I tried to memorise recognition of the radicals and their meanings, by reading through a list of them on pages like this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Japanese_kanji_radicals

    I also read some books and websites about ancient forms of Chinese characters and radicals, and theories about their origins. I tried to find out their original meanings and learned about Oracle Bone Script, Bronze Script, Seal Script, etc. Learning more indepth about kanji radicals helped immensely with learning kanji. I got much better at using JCJP after this.

    Another thing I started doing around this point was making sure I always practiced on JCJP with "Show Kana" option turned off. I didn't care if I didn't know the reading, as I could most of the time work out the answers from knowing the meanings of radicals and kanji. This helped a lot, forcing myself to learn to recognise kanji rather than keep looking only at furigana. I got really quick at answering JCJP Practice questions after I'd been doing this for a while. ^^

    A couple of years ago, I finally realised how useful the main story mode on SFA was for learning kanji. I went from the story mode of the end of the game in less than three months, completing recognition of all 1,972 kanji by their meanings! I also completed the 1,385 KUN-readings the game has for those kanji too, which helped reinforce the meanings even better. After learning to recognise the meanings of this many kanji I found it much easier to do JCJP Practice, making it easy to keep a high combo. SFA also forces you to type the answers really quick because otherwise your character gets killed by the slime enemies, so it made me really quick at recognising kanji in JCJP too. So I was able to earn insane amounts of EXP on JCJP after getting to this stage. ^^

    After buying my first smart phone only a year ago, I've been using some Android apps that have helped with learning even more kanji:
    "Kanji Study", "Kotoba-chan", "Obenkyo", and the really awesome kanji learning game I found recently "Kanji no Owari!". According to my progress on Kanji Study it looks like I can remember the meanings for about 2,500 kanji—and for 1,500 of those kanji I can remember some of the readings too.

    I'd say playing Slime Forest Adventure helped me the most out of everything with learning kanji. But JCJP has helped me memorise very solidly a large diverse chunk of both kanji and vocabulary. I don't know if I should really recommend anything about how I learned kanji though, since it's probably not the proper way to do it that a Japanese teacher would ever say at all. :P
  • Ghosts
    I will attemp to do that!
    ありがとうございました!がんばって
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