転写：言語学習のための対応するテキストと音声メッセージ Can't read it. I know 90% of the kanji. Even… - Feed Post by KenjiSama

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  carhard

  We all have a dream my friend. and it is like they say.
  You can have anything in the world, as long as you want it badly enough.
  
  Do not give up m8 !!

  July 29, 2015 at 10:48pm
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  Fuds

  how much time did you study to get where you are?

  July 29, 2015 at 10:59pm
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  carhard

  I do not know to be honest. every now and then i try to make some time. but i started about 1.5 year ago. i only can introduce myself and know some vocabulary. but thats about it.
  
  I realised life was more than my shitty dayjob, so i started with university last year ( i am 23 ). This makes i do not have that much time to study my japanese.

  July 29, 2015 at 11:04pm
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  Fuds

  I started learning about a month, I was confused to try to understand how to speak and etc..
  I just try to put the Kanji and the rest all together so I don't forget how it works.
  I would say its a daily exercise, especialy the ones I find more interesting.

  July 29, 2015 at 11:19pm
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  carhard

  looks like i was confused in my previous comment :p sorry
  
  But i think it is true what fuds is saying.

  July 29, 2015 at 11:21pm
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  Fuds

  I find hard to memrise some, but what I did aswell is learn the kanji meaning and then learn how to say it, its a way of learning along with the hiragana and katakana without forcing yourself into all of it.

  July 29, 2015 at 11:34pm
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  Fuds

  I guess it just depends on the person to find a way to learn it, idk

  July 29, 2015 at 11:37pm
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  Fuds

  And Kenjisama like carhard said don't give up, sometimes I feel down aswell when learning but there's always a solution, so never give up.

  July 30, 2015 at 12:24am
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  KenjiSama

  I starting almost a year ago. Had a very slow start due to family troubles and not having any money to get a textbook...I started to really learn a couple months ago....
  
  I don't want to give up. I just feel that way for some reason....It's the only dream I've ever had in my life. It's the only thing that gives me purpose. To give that up....is like driving a knife in my stomach. It's why I'm so down....

  July 30, 2015 at 2:16am
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  KenjiSama

  I also like your profile pic Fuds....looks like FilthyFrank xD

  July 30, 2015 at 2:17am
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  Koukyoshi

  It's hard to say what the problem is, but I think you're experiencing some tunnel vision. First, knowing kanji, specifically words, isn't going to help you at all if you don't know grammar. Second, that's a hard sentence. I think it would be more worthwhile to try to read stuff at your level or sentences that are written in simpler manner like the sentences on the NHK easy website. Third, since you're learning Japanese, reading, especially, will take some time. No, it'll time a lot of time. Although there's no instant gratification, try to find small victories; stay positive. If you know all the kanji in the sentence you wrote, that shows you're progressing. I would even say just recognizing the kanji in that sentence is a small victory.
  
  The most important thing is to keep things in perspective. Learning a language is a marathon, not a sprint. Everyone is different, but it could take 3-5 years until you become proficient in the language. Keep at it! And most important, have fun!

  July 30, 2015 at 3:30am
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  KenjiSama

  Thx man :)
  
  You put me in a good mood. I'll try to find some easy to read manga.

  July 30, 2015 at 3:37am
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  Fuds

  Yeah I've heard that someone that lived in japan took like 5 years to learn or something and I saw that japanese is one of the hardest languages to learn, not that its bad, its just really different then other languages, and I feel that more I study, the more I find a connection with it.
  
  Yep I watch frank mostly for pinkguy :P

  July 30, 2015 at 6:02am
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  Fuds

  Ops I did'nt mean to say bad, I wanted to say hard, but I get confused with english since I'm learning japanese for some reason.

  July 30, 2015 at 6:54am
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  mog86uk

  http://twentytwowords.com/infographic-ranking-the-difficulty-of-different-languages-for-english-speakers/
  http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
  
  Japanese is pretty much the highest language on the FSI's list of most difficult languages for English native speakers to learn. They estimate that it takes about 2,200 "class" hours to attain "general professional proficiency" in both speaking and reading. Self study hours may well be much higher than this depending on how you study.
  
  So you're doing fine. It's supposed to be a long road for learning Japanese. Just keep up the daily studying. :)
  
  I know what you mean about focussing on one aspect of the language for a while, that you end up forgetting what you had learnt in another area. It will be like this for a while. But even when you can't remember something there will still be bits of it hiding in your brain somewhere. Whenever you do have to go back and re-learn stuff it will be a lot quicker than the first time.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition
  Spaced repetition. You need to repeatedly retest yourself on each new thing you learn before you will be able to remember it properly long term. To begin with, repeatly test yourself on it after very short times. Then each time you get it correct, keep going longer and longer before the next time you retest yourself on it--a few days, once a week, once a month, once a year,... Once you've been doing the once every month or so stage for a few months, the thing you've learnt will be pretty much permanent in your memory.
  
  That is the learning method used by JCJP's 'Practice' and by Anki, Wanikani, Slime Forest Adventure,... If you don't follow through with spaced repetition for each new thing you learn, then it will probably only stay in short term memory and soon be mostly forgotten. If you switch your focus from kanji to grammar, you just need to keep up with doing spaced repetition retesting on each kanji you have learnt until they are in your long term memory, then you won't end up forgetting them all.
  
  Bleh I ended up writing far too much about nothing again... ^^;

  July 30, 2015 at 9:43am
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  carhard

  Great info mog86 !

  July 31, 2015 at 4:21am